Originally written: LionKimbro 06:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
- There were about 3-6 supportive people, 3 of whom emailed in private.
- A few people asked questions, but didn't express support or lack of support.
- Most people were silent.
- "Classical atheists," numbering perhaps 3-4, were extremely skeptical. Objections, paraphrased:
- "Aren't you just trying to trick people?"
- "Why not just tell people to think whatever they want?"
- "Why are you pandering to religions? They don't deserve it."
- "This looks like a religion, smells like a religion... ...It is a religion! We're against religion. Religion does bad things."
- "People just need to get a grip."
- "Woah-woah-woah-- what do you mean, the Universe became aware?"
- "So much clap-trap."
One of the classical atheists wrote:
- Folks just need to get a grip. (...)
- You come to grips with the fact that the only purpose of life is what you make of it; that the world is a cold, hollow, soulless place, and that no --- you are not a precious fucking snowflake.
Every statement of evolutionary spirituality was viewed as an opportunity for deceit.
Talk about language was considered "clap-trap" and trickery.
The idea that "We participate in this cosmic creativity by way of language, which is in inherently symbolic, meaningful, consequential, and ever changing,"  was derided as (paraphrasing) "saying nothing." One person asked, (paraphrasing) "What could this even mean?!" They saw this as (paraphrasing) "new age pseudo-science clap-trap nonsense."
The classical atheists originally thought that we were saying that the universe has an independent consciousness, (like a classical God.) I think I convinced them otherwise, but they're squinting their eyes, saying, "Really..."
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